Stone Cold Nuts, Video Question
First up, congrats to Texas Troll who won a UB $100 the other day. Nice job sir!
I did make the final table in the afternoon $100 yesterday. That's my third final table in a $100 in recent days, so things are running good right now. It's nice to push through to the final table. Also took a second in a $50 SNG and only missed a first when I got rivered a few times. Don't get to play many SNGs anymore.
Question: Stone Cold Nuts
So how should the Extreme Tilt Leader Board handle the big Stone Cold Nuts tournament on UB on January 15th? The problem is that this is a very special tournament that they have been running satellites for months and months. It already has 1400+ players. The winner will pick up hundreds of points ... which will be equal to what a top player gets in an entire month. What should we do?
Right now, I'm leaning to excluding this tournament from the Extreme Tilt Leader Board. The board's purpose is to track which top players are doing well at UB. This tournament will skew that tremendously.
Now, on the other hand, UB is starting weekly $500 tournaments. Yippee! But these will each have only a week's worth of satellites, not 4 months. Plus, we've eliminated the entry fee bonus. What do you guys think? Should SCN tournament results not be included in our leader board?
Final Question: I was able to put a Table of Contents into the video below. It provides links on the right side of the video that let's you easily go to a specific hand or replay a hand. It was a lot of extra work. Does it have value? I don't mind doing the work. Imagine that a top pro has made a video with 100 hands in it, is it helpful to have a table of contents on the right side with fast links to specific hands? Thanks for any feedback!
Video Part One
8 Comments:
With 2000 +- 200 entrants, we can say it will pay roughly 200 spots, and therefore count for about 230 points for first. The winner of the $200 last week got 120 for first. Less than twice as many points for winning a tourney with more than twice as many people and more than twice the buy-in is quite fair and will not skew the results for January.
Furthermore, with the new point system in 2006 and the SCNII, I suspect that the winning point total for January will be around 300 points, so the top 10 in the SCNII (who will all get around 200 points), will still need two or more other final tables to win January. Nobody will be able to get lucky in this one event and take down January player of the month while sucking the rest of the month.
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I agree with TTTTTTTT mostly. I dont think it will effect the leader board that much. Though in the short run and maybe for january it might.
Which reminds me..... i need to play more $100 tourny's
Kingcha
Greetings -
I love to disagree with 13 T's.
If it is included, and there are more than 2000 entrants, then it'll be 300 paid, and the winner will get 300+ plus points, right? That's equivalant to winning 6* 100's, which very few people did last year. It will hopelessly skew the results - No one event should count for 1/3rd of last years winner's total - end of story!
I say count it. They don't exclude the WSOP Main Event from the cardplayer rankings. Why would you exclude UB's "main event". The fact that it is a large turnout event only emphasizes the difficulty in winning it all. In all likelihood, the event will be won by an unknown and the points won't signicantly affect the player of the year race. In the event a pro wins, we will get a great chance to see the determination and fortitude of the players who chase him. Should make for an exciting year regardless.
to exclude it would not be right, but maybe to somehow not award more than 200 points for first could be figured out ??? just a thought...if i win it, which is doubtful, the $ won will console my sorrow for the lack of points won....:o)...lol
if you really want to use the $500 tournament results then why don't you just scale it to a $200 buy in for your results. Then 300 points for first would become 300(2/5) or 120 points. Or if you want just cut the points in half, the winner would receive 150 points...
It seems arbitrary to make the cut, but fair if the real leader board is designed mainly to encompass the $100 and $200 results. Otherwise just ignore the results, but I don't like that idea.
The only other thing is that 1500+ people will be playing this tournament that don't normally play in the 100's and 200's so the overall effect to the end of the year ranking will be minimized, unless some of the 'regulars' do extremely well (and there is a chance of that). So it could be no big deal either way.
Leave it in; ub has stepped up the number of 100 200 and 500 tourneys; the shear added volume and the change in formula will make this tourney important but not overwhelming; by feb the top ten in this tourney will not be on leader board unless i am in top ten
My point here is the number of points for top 5% in this one event is worth considerably more than winning a single $100 - which reflects a top .5% to 1% effort, and requires handling of wider situations (changing to short handed situations, for example). Top 5% would still be mostly 10 handed.
How about something like only giving points for the top 120-150 people, so the points available would be in the 160 point range - more than other events, but not 260 points for a top 50 performance....
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